tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post114959962631149501..comments2024-02-05T04:09:55.009-08:00Comments on Maya's corner: Parental psychopathologyMaya Mhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10877457709995369246noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1160546546273669972006-10-10T23:02:00.000-07:002006-10-10T23:02:00.000-07:00Smokey, I didn't mean that your blog is entirely o...Smokey, I didn't mean that your blog is entirely or predominantly about the you-know-what conflict, sorry if it has sounded like this. I just meant that you regularly post about it. <BR/>About the "romantic" matter - I am just fond of happy endings, so I visited your blog hoping to find one. Indeed you are a complete stranger but I wish to "marry off" even imaginary people (I mean, I like when books and movies end with a wedding). I put a comment to that old your post.Maya Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877457709995369246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1160429752736732212006-10-09T14:35:00.000-07:002006-10-09T14:35:00.000-07:00Maya, I would suggest looking over my blog with fr...Maya, I would suggest looking over my blog with fresh eyes. Of the entire first page, most entries have to do with Libya and only one is Live from Palestine.smokey spicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883279968071225830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1160392018602145812006-10-09T04:06:00.000-07:002006-10-09T04:06:00.000-07:00Smokey Spice, your blog HAS to do specifically wit...Smokey Spice, your blog HAS to do specifically with Israel and Palestine! I have just visited it and one of the last posts is about Israel and Palestine (LifeFromPalestine).<BR/>The rest is the price of being public. Once you upload your personal life to a site with unrestricted access, it is open for every stranger to copy, paste and comment. Including people whose views and personalities you dislike.<BR/>The same is true for that mother and the other parents I wrote about. It was they who came forward with their emotions, made them public and subjucted them to a political agenda (to be precise, the enemy's political agenda).<BR/>Of course they have the right to have an opinion. So have I and Programmer Craig.Maya Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877457709995369246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1160389187032362672006-10-09T03:19:00.000-07:002006-10-09T03:19:00.000-07:00Well this is certainly interesting! I was looking ...Well this is certainly interesting! I was looking something up on my own blog when I stumbled upon this post. <BR/><BR/>Ummm, not really sure what to say, except that I never thought of my blog as one that specifically had to do with Palestine and Israel nor did I think my romantic life would be of much interest to anyone that's never actually interacted with me. <BR/><BR/>Whatever.<BR/><BR/>I don't really care about that. <BR/><BR/>What I do care about is that you're misrepresenting this woman's words and message and that you relate to her in a strange non-human way as though she's a strange space alien working on behalf of your opposition. She's a mother expressing her own thoughts, her own ideas, her own feelings. <BR/><BR/>If a Lebanese woman whose child was killed by Israelis came out in support of Israel, I would think it a bit odd, but I wouldn't try to figure out how her mind has been twisted. It's called having a different opinion and I believe in that. Why you and PC seem to want to make this woman a crazy one, I don't understand.smokey spicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883279968071225830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1150456800644403892006-06-16T04:20:00.000-07:002006-06-16T04:20:00.000-07:00I read Programmer Craig's comments on the original...I read Programmer Craig's comments on the original Smokey Spice's post (http://smokeyspice.blogspot.com/2006/04/mothers-voice.html#comments) - I don't know whether she has enjoyed these comments but I did!Maya Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877457709995369246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1150203299110051552006-06-13T05:54:00.000-07:002006-06-13T05:54:00.000-07:00About revenge... Well, it is very natural for some...About revenge... Well, it is very natural for someone whose loved one is killed. It could be my reaction as well - I cannot really say, the situation is too horrible for me even to imagine. But the society has to put things under control. We are not to judge a Palestinian mother if she says, "I want the death of those who killed my baby", and in fact we needn't, she isn't the problem. The problem are the Palestinian leaders who say, "We'll avenge our dead, but they mustn't avenge theirs, and why do they build a wall to protect themselves?" They regularly file to UN complains that can be resumed as, "When we fire rockets on Israeli villages, the Israelis keep striking back."<BR/>Arabs tend to regard other people as inferior and I guess this is why it is so difficult to live in peace with them.<BR/>Another such nation are the Russians. After a Russian plane carrying 80 children crashed in Switzerland, a father killed the air traffic controler who was on duty. I would blame not as much the father as the air traffic control service who exposed the innocent controler to use him as a scapegoat, and the Swiss authorities who did nothing for his safety. But what shocked me was the comment of a popular Russian paper: "The father may never again walk as a free man, but he has piece of mind now, because he has fulfilled his duty."Maya Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877457709995369246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1149627711734501152006-06-06T14:01:00.000-07:002006-06-06T14:01:00.000-07:00Sorry! Not sure what got into blogger there... it ...Sorry! Not sure what got into blogger there... it posted the exact same commnet 3 times :oprogrammer craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566950406349754166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1149617500030462032006-06-06T11:11:00.001-07:002006-06-06T11:11:00.001-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.programmer craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566950406349754166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1149617481974991282006-06-06T11:11:00.000-07:002006-06-06T11:11:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.programmer craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566950406349754166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25206081.post-1149616687526440952006-06-06T10:58:00.000-07:002006-06-06T10:58:00.000-07:00Hi Maya :)I didn't comment on that post Smokey Spi...Hi Maya :)<BR/><BR/>I didn't comment on that post Smokey Spice put up at the time. I just did now. Not sure why I did, there's really nothing to say. I think it's horrific that people use a grieving parent to serve a political agenda. Cindy Sheehan's son re-enlisted voluntarily during the war in Iraq, so he obviously did not share his mother's views. Unfortunately, we can't hear from him. But Cindy's husband divorced her, and the rest of her family has denounced her statements. She has paid a heavy price for allowing herself to be made a propaganda tool. On the bright side, she probably truly believes she is "fighting the good fight" - so in her mind at least, her son's death has purpose.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that when one has a child who is killed violently, especially in a war, they tend to react in one of several ways. <BR/><BR/>Most often, people are resigned to it and comfort themselves with the idea that their child died for a good cause, or was at the least an innocent victim. <BR/><BR/>Many people want revenge... they want whoever is responsible for their child's death to suffer as much as they are suffeing. This seems to be the Arab reaction. And mine, to be honest, though I never lost a child. I did lose friends in war. I have tried to explain to family members why their son died.<BR/><BR/>Then there are the occassional people who blame themselves. And if you really look closely, that's exactly what the woman who gave that speech is doing. She's denouncing her own religion, her own culture, her own nationality, her own government... she's renouncing everything that she is. Destroying her own identity. In order to embrace the culture that murdered her child.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure there have been studies done on the mentality of crime victims that would apply to situations like this as well. Robbery victims who become thieves themselves, rape victims who become extremely promiscuous... it all ties together somehow, I'm sure, but I don't know enough about psychology to explain how :)<BR/><BR/>Good post. I'm glad you took that up.programmer craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566950406349754166noreply@blogger.com