Translating from the Dialog:
"Podolyak hinted at what Russia needs to be "provided" with so that Putin "wants" to end the war
Mikhailo Podolyak assured that Russia and its citizens understand only the language of force, which is what we need to talk to them in.
Putin himself will not stop, but there is a way to "help" him do it, said [Ukrainian official] Mikhailo Podolyak. Only forceful methods of influence will be effective when more and more drones fly to Russia every day and the population of this country feels what war is like on their own skin.
The adviser... expressed his opinion about the Russians, so that everyone understands who Ukraine has to deal with: "The Russians like it. They like to come, cut, kill, rape, deport and at the same time puff out their cheeks, as does Lavrov, and talk about the fact that there are some root causes, that "we want to cut them out because they want to join somewhere." [i.e. that the destruction of Ukraine and wholesale slaughter of Ukrainians is allegedly justified by Ukraine's wish to join the EU and NATO - M. M.] That's what they like and, accordingly, without the use of tools that will kill this side of the war that they like, nothing will work."
Then Mykhailo Podolyak named an effective way to force Russia to cease fire: "We have already discussed with you more than once what coercion instruments are. The first is the cost of war for Russia and the second is the cost of the perception of war. Roughly speaking, the cost of war is the economy, and the cost of perception is the number of strikes on Russian territory, the destruction of military infrastructure, military logistics or simply logistics, as regards the social perception of war (when airports do not work)."
"This is the feeling of war, that is, when the normal schedule of life is completely broken. This is what Russia needs to receive. Unfortunately, until this happens, they will continue to implement their favorite pastime - raping and killing," the political strategist summarized."
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